USENET RE: TECHTALK #12

From: VoltR@ctinet.net (RDucharme)
Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
Subject: Re: GODS CHURCH: TECHTALK #12; MAGICAL MYSTERY METER
Date: 21 Mar 1999 13:50:08 -0500

At 13:21 21/03/99 -0500, anonymous@electra.lightlink.com wrote:
>GODS CHURCH: TECHTALK #12; MAGICAL MYSTERY METER
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>Konchok Penday
>Technical Writer
>GODS CHURCH
><konchok.penday@net-prophet.net>


TROM was around long before you showed up, and your commands are virtually
identical to a certain portion of the TROM commands. TROM is far more
elaborate -- for good reasons, like havingness and gradients.

What proof can you present that your tech is NOT just a simplistic ripoff of
the TROM tech?


Robert

From: anonymous@electra.lightlink.com
Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
Subject: Re: GODS CHURCH: TECHTALK #12; MAGICAL MYSTERY METER
Date: 21 Mar 1999 15:15:18 -0500

On 21 Mar 1999 13:50:08 -0500, VoltR@ctinet.net (RDucharme) wrote:

>At 13:21 21/03/99 -0500, anonymous@electra.lightlink.com wrote:
>>GODS CHURCH: TECHTALK #12; MAGICAL MYSTERY METER
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>>
>>Konchok Penday
>>Technical Writer
>>GODS CHURCH
>><konchok.penday@net-prophet.net>

Dear Robert:

I don't know exactly why you would bother to post about a comparatively
irrelevant aspect of Universal Clearing Process, while completely ignoring
the fundamental vital matter of whether it works or not, [?UNLESS YOU'RE
*ADMITTING* THAT IT REALLY WORKS GREAT?], but I respond nevertheless.

>TROM was around long before you showed up,

I haven't read the TROM materials, though I have known about it for the
last couple of years or so. I think I've read a page or two of TROM
somewhere on the web. If my memory serves me, you have to buy some books
to get the whole scoop.

Universal Clearing Process has been used in it's present form for close to
20 years, and longer than that with one modification explained below.

I don't know when TROM was developed.

>and your commands are virtually
>identical to a certain portion of the TROM commands.

They are also ALMOST [but not quite: viva la difference!] "virtually
identical" to the confusion formula, some power processes, OT3, and other
processes. Maybe I ripped them off too? If fact, I'm SURE I did. The
only problem is . . . *THEY* DIDN'T WORK!

Exactly what ARE the TROM commands . . . maybe HE ripped me off?
Does he deal with the future, as well as the past and/or present?

>TROM is far more
>elaborate -- for good reasons, like havingness and gradients.

Universal Clearing Process has complete gradients and total havingness, as
far as I can tell from using it. In my viewpoint, elaborate = complex =
aberrated; simplicity = power.

>What proof can you present that your tech is NOT just a simplistic ripoff of
>the TROM tech?

I am not interested in proving anything to anyone but myself.

I can tell you right away that I "ripped off" the future leg of UCP from a
former sea borg member who was totally unwilling to run it because she saw
it as part of El Commode's criminal spiritual rip-off. She told me
something like "It's STUPID just to deal with the past! Why don't you
address the future too?"

At that point, I had been running it for years with only the PAST/PRESENT
legs . . . and gotten superlative results . . . but I couldn't think of
*ANY* good answer to her question . . . so I've been asking the future
question since then . . . and it works MUCH BETTER!

But it wasn't ripped off from "Mr. Trom" [I forget who that is.] I have no
problem giving credit where credit is due. WHO developed something is
insignificant compared to WHETHER IT WORKS OR NOT. To the extent that UCP
and TROM may be very similar [I can't judge this, as I am not familiar with
TROM, isn't it a SOLO process?] that would be very interesting to me.
MAYBE THEY *BOTH* WORK REALLY WELL????

*YOU* COULD, if you wanted, *PROVE* TO YOURSELF whether UCP works or not .
. . by co-auditing it yourself [IF you could find a co-auditor . . . that
Could Be a Getting Processed Mass!]. I have proved to myself on two flows
that it works better than ANYTHING else I have studied, used, and tested,
and I HAVE been around the block a time or too many. I am reporting my
test results.

Your mileage may vary.

WHY MISS OUT?
DO UCP & SEE!

O
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Konchok Penday
<KP@net-prophet.net>
Research & Technical Writing
Recipient of the Alex Yakovlev
Technical Excellence Award :-)

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