ALAN WALTER THREAD RE UCP

From: "Alan C. Walter" <wisdom@cyberstation.net>
Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
Subject: 40 years of running the Universal Clearing Process.
Date: 26 Feb 1999 15:22:02 -0500

Net Prophet makes some very strong claims for the Universal Clearing Process.

How accurate are his claims.

There is no doubt that the UCP is an excellent combination of processes,
but as a stand alone ALL YOU NEED PROCESS it is very questionable.

Luckily I have been running these processes for almost 40 years now and
still use them. They have become a natural part of my operating basis.

I am sure many of you are also running variations of these processes in
your daily life and have been doing so for quite a while.

The 1st process of this style that was run on me was. "Is it ok to process
in this room?"

The processor would pick up anything your attention fixed on, and handle
it. Usually asking: What is happening?

I later found that asking: Does that remind you of something? to work better.

This simple action allowed you to stay in present time and run of the
identifications and similarities.

The next sequence of processes was: Look at me who am I?

This ran off all the identifications and similarities to do with the
processor.

If something heavy was in restimulation the process used to handle that
was: Where are you now? Where were you then?

Most havingness processes are basic "then and now" types of processes with
the EP of being able to fully have the present time environment and to be
fully in present time.

S.C.S. and all objective processes are basically "then and now" processes
with the EP of being able to fully have control of your body, the present
time environment and to be fully in present time.

Almost anyone who has had great gains doing havingness, control, objectives
or duplication style processes would find themselves using life as the
processor and utilizing these "then and now" similarities and differences
techniques.

Over the years I have found it vital to teach all my staff and students how
to use these "then and now" style processes and having life as the processor.

But these processes are not stand alone processes. In conjunction with
other key processes the amount of gain can be increased enormously.

A truly vital process is the PTS rundown which will greatly expand the
clients confront on their present time and future track. As do the Power
Processes.

Of course you will end up with some giant sized Ascension Experiences which
will throw the client into the unmapped, uncharted areas.

The UCP processes are rudiment type processes.

********

The Net Prophet wrote:

UCP COMMANDS:

1] Tell me a place you have been.
[Or: Where have you been?]

2] Compare that place to where you are now.
[Itsa similarities & differences].

3] Where might you be?

4] Compare that place to where you are now.
[Itsa similarities & differences].

Run repetitively to EP each session. [Client introverts/gets massy, then
extroverts, has more space, and sees more of his universe = EP] If something
goes "wrong," it's just unflat; some place/incident has moved in that hasn't
been duplicated. Continue and it will self-correct. The process itself
teaches the client how to use it better and better. As he comes up tone, he
uses it more and more sanely to constantly recreate his universe. Expect 25
hours plus for others to notice major changes in client. Expect at least
50-100 hours plus to get client to Tone Zero.

******

ACW wrote:

This is silly as it takes someone being at least above 1.5 to begin to sort
anything out. And much higher on the tone scale to as-is something.

******

When the client gets up past Zero, he is basically auditing his own
self-created viewpoints, not what has happened TO him, and the mostly-effect
mest-oriented "place" command becomes clumsy since his "places" are mental.
Simply rephrase commands with "View Point" instead of "place" to address his
higher cause:

1] Tell me a View Point you have had.
[Or: What View Point have you had?]

2] Compare that View Point to your present View Point.
[Itsa similarities & differences].

3] What View Point might you have?

4] Compare that View Point to your present View Point.
[Itsa similarities & differences].

Above Tone 20, few or no commands are needed from auditor--who is now
enlightened by the client.

*****

ACW wrote:

Now as regards your other claims which to say the least are make nothing of's.

*****
Net Prophet wrote:

UCP can't put the client in over his reality level, and it doesn't by-pass
charge OR his case.

ACW wrote:

It obviously can by-pass charge and case.

For you have one of the worst make nothing of case conditions I have seen.

You are very much tending to "Only-Oneism."

I do believe you have by-passed several serv facs.

****

Net Prophet wrote:

You can't run the wrong item or action. It's a natural
co-audit and handles anything the client wants to look at: ruds, locks,
secondaries, engrams, int-ext., arcX, power, R/6, problems, motivators,
havingness, service facs, implants, body thetans, valences, identities, past
lives, out lists, considerations, postulates, overruns, bad auditing, wrong
items, overwhelm, total freedom, etc.

****

ACW wrote:

The fact you can put a label on each of these phenomena tends to suggest
they exist and demand specific forms of handling.

You can of course engage in "re-arranging the mental furniture" but it is
best if what you run into is fully handled and erased.

BTW I am surprised you cannot find anyone to co-audit with, though by this
time you should be able to run these processes solo. As a matter of fact
these processes should be a natural operating procedure for you daily and
for the rest of your existences, along with several other unlimited basic
processes.

Alan

From: Net Prophet <net-prophet@net-prophet.net>
Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
Subject: Re: 40 years of running the Universal Clearing Process.
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 11:25:38 GMT
Organization: GODS CHURCH

On 26 Feb 1999 15:22:02 -0500, "Alan C. Walter" <wisdom@cyberstation.net>
wrote:

Dear Alan:

Thank you very much for writing.

I appreciate you taking valuable time to analyze your extraordinary experience
in relation to this process and share your evaluation.


Dear Lurkers:

For those of you who don't know, Alan is a Technical Grand Master from the
era when auditor's weren't just robotic cue-card meter-maids, [heavily
inspected by the Thought Police for political correctness], and he's been
doing this stuff a lot longer than I have. He has been responsible for
training and auditing thousands of people.

Interestingly, he doesn't feel compelled to waste his time on snide comments,
insulting remarks, ad hominem attacks, and grandiose pronouncements of total
unworkability, based on missing data, fixed ideas, delusion and dub-in. He
doesn't even seem to feel that my assertions about a process unmock him
personally! ?What's wrong with his case? Maybe he's not even in the valence
of an "OT"! Do you think he might even have his very own identity, not based
on approval by groupthink? What a concept!

Amazingly, he is capable of responding to a technical discussion on a
specific, precise, analytical technical basis!    I'll go through his post for
points of agreement and disagreement.

=================================

>Net Prophet makes some very strong claims for the Universal Clearing Process.
>
>How accurate are his claims.
>
>There is no doubt that the UCP is an excellent combination of processes,

HE AGREES WITH ME HERE.

>but as a stand alone ALL YOU NEED PROCESS it is very questionable.

HE SAYS THEY ARE "VERY QUESTIONABLE" as "ALL YOU NEED" processes.

That sounds like a very sane response to me. No fixed ideas. No make wrong.
He doesn't say they are "obviously absurd" "ludicrous," "show that I'm
insane," etc. I'd say they are questionable too. All I ask is: question
them in the most practical application BY USING THEM. TEST THEM OUT! I
questioned them very thoroughly, and was enormously pleased with the answers.

I invite you to meaningfully question them too.

>Luckily I have been running these processes for almost 40 years now and
>still use them. They have become a natural part of my operating basis.

DAMN! He's been using them for much longer than me, and still uses them.
They must be pretty awe-fully effective! I guess they are not cancelled,
obsolete, or superceded by the latest groupthink-approved hype.

>I am sure many of you are also running variations of these processes in
>your daily life and have been doing so for quite a while.

FURTHER STRONG ENDORSEMENT!

>The 1st process of this style that was run on me was. "Is it ok to process
>in this room?"
>
>The processor would pick up anything your attention fixed on, and handle
>it. Usually asking: What is happening?
>
>I later found that asking: Does that remind you of something? to work better.
>
>This simple action allowed you to stay in present time and run of the
>identifications and similarities.
>
>The next sequence of processes was: Look at me who am I?
>
>This ran off all the identifications and similarities to do with the
>processor.
>
>If something heavy was in restimulation the process used to handle that
>was: Where are you now? Where were you then?
>
>Most havingness processes are basic "then and now" types of processes with
>the EP of being able to fully have the present time environment and to be
>fully in present time.
>
>S.C.S. and all objective processes are basically "then and now" processes
>with the EP of being able to fully have control of your body, the present
>time environment and to be fully in present time.
>
>Almost anyone who has had great gains doing havingness, control, objectives
>or duplication style processes would find themselves using life as the
>processor and utilizing these "then and now" similarities and differences
>techniques.
>
>Over the years I have found it vital to teach all my staff and students how
>to use these "then and now" style processes and having life as the processor.

HE SAYS THIS KIND OF PROCESS IS "VITAL" FOR ALL HIS STAFF AND STUDENTS.

>But these processes are not stand alone processes. In conjunction with
>other key processes the amount of gain can be increased enormously.

HERE HE DISAGREES WITH ME. HE SAYS "THEY ARE *NOT* STAND-ALONE PROCESSES."
THOUGH HE SAYS THEY INCREASE THE GAIN OF OTHER PROCESSES ENORMOUSLY.

>A truly vital process is the PTS rundown which will greatly expand the
>clients confront on their present time and future track. As do the Power
>Processes.
>
>Of course you will end up with some giant sized Ascension Experiences which
>will throw the client into the unmapped, uncharted areas.
>
>The UCP processes are rudiment type processes.

HERE HE AGRESS WITH ME. I SAY THE SAME THING: UCP *IS* A RUDIMENT PROCESS.

I MERELY EXTEND THAT STATEMENT *MUCH* FARTHER THAN HE DOES. I ASSERT IT WILL
PUT THE RUDIMENTS IN ON YOUR *ENTIRE* UNIVERSE, AND WILL RAISE YOUR TONE LEVEL
INDEFINITELY. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE ELSE HAS EVER EVEN *TRIED* TO DO THIS
WITH IT.

WHEN YOU AUDIT MANY SESSIONS OF IT YOURSELF, THEN YOU WILL HAVE PLENTY OF DATA
TO MAKE YOUR OWN PERSONAL *INFORMED* OPINION OF ITS EFFECTIVENESS.

Until then, you have ONLY TWO informed opinions to choose from: 1] Alan's,
that it is a fabulously effective process that he has been using for 40
years, but it needs other processes in conjunction with it; and 2] Mine: I
AGREE with Alan on EVERYTHING, *EXCEPT* that I further assert it works
wonderfully as a stand-alone process, and will out-perform the entire
"grade-chart bridge" on it's own.

All other opinions that have been expressed about UCP here on ACT have been
based *entirely* on hallucination, by-passed charge, hysteria, and unmocked
identities mocking up compulsively.


Konchok Penday
Technical Writer
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